3D Flying

cl the instigator · #1

Blender

For myself, i don't consider this a 3d maneuver. But some do, so here is what you do.

1.Get the airplane up high maybe 300' to start
2. Chop the throttle and dive the airplane vertically, straight down.
3. Immediately give full left aileron input and get several rotations until the plane is rolling fast.
Simultaneously (but ever so slightly lead with full down elevator) feed in full down elevator, full right rudder and half to full throttle. The plane will violently wrap into an inverted flat spin.
4. As it settles into the inverted flat spin, continue to hold full down and full rudder and bring the ailerons back to center. This should level out the flat spin.
5. Adjust the throttle and ailerons to flatten out the spins and slow the descent.

If you get it right the plane will descend vertically flat on its back wrapping tightly around its cg axis.

cl the instigator · #2

One of the best 3d flying I've ever seen. Practice Allen...practice. 9a8ku8

Click

P.S. At the end of the flight, check out the radio he is holding. thud1

Anybody know what it is??

Jim Dean · #3

I've often wondered what airplane maneuver a Blender was. I never asked because I thought that I should already know. Now that you have described it I've known about it for a long time. We used to just call it an inverted flat spin. At one time it was something to fear because, if you got into a flat spin, it was unlikely that you would get out of it. The flat spin was obviously more fearsome to full scale pilots. Some years ago, I accidentally got into an inverted flat spin while goofing around with an old Sig Kadet Mark II. (At a safe altitude) It took a long time before I could do it again. I never could get it into an upright flat spin, only inverted. That seemed like a nice airplane ounce I learned how to fly it. biggrin

Macro Henry · #4

I fly like that without trying to!! muttleya

cl the instigator · #5

Waterfall

How to:
1. Level the wings or climb vertically until the plane comes to a stop in a hover stance.
2. Full down elevator, hold and apply full throttle.
3. The plane should flip inverted in a pivot right around the wingtube/spar
4. As the plane wraps to inverted chop the throttle and then back to full throttle as the plane comes back up. Hammer the throttle to punch it completely over the top and get right back out at it flops over. Sometimes you can leave the throttle in if it falls just right.
a. You have to rudder correct quite a bit in this maneuver to keep it straight.
To recover, simply get off of the trottle and elevator and fly out.

Here is what it looks like.

cl the instigator · #6

Knife Edge Spin

How to:
1. From a knife edge or vertical stance really high up, apply full down elevator, and then in the same direction full rudder and full aileron. Basically just pin the elevator/aileron stick all the way over.
2. Adjust the throttle and aileron to keep it in a knife edge position.

The entry is the key, if you don't get it just right you will end up in an inverted flat spin. Shove the sticks to full deflection and go straight to around 1/2 throttle. It will immediately fall right in.

This is another maneuver that eats altitude in a hurry. Be sure to be plenty high and give yourself time to recover.

Video here

I like this one. Can't wait for spring to get started on this one. Have never tried it.

Jim Dean · #7

Wow!....a bit bit beyond my skill level. biggrin

cl the instigator · #8

Jim Dean wrote:

Wow!....a bit bit beyond my skill level. biggrin

Don't feel bad, mine to. thats whyn i am looking to build the profile, and

Practice....Practice.....Practice

9a8ku8

Jim Dean · #9

I've been thinking off and on about converting a Veco Tomahawk controline plane to R/C. It's a neat looking profile plane and was lots of fun to fly. It served well as a primary trainer and a stunt trainer. It seems like profile R/C has caught on in a big way.

nitroflight · **#10**

Nice. Next time we get to the warehouse, going to try the Knife Edge Spin. that looks tough.

cl the instigator · **#11**

Harrier

Quote:

1. Slow the plane to just slightly above stall speed. Point the nose down and then sharply feed in full up elevator and keep it there, do not let back out, hold full deflection. Start out high until you get the feel for it.
2. As the airplane stands up chop the throttle so that it does not stand up vertically or flip over. It will start to sink fast, wings level and slightly nose high.
3. Immediately begin to ease in the throttle until it stops sinking and then control forward motion and altitude with throttle ONLY. You will probably be pulsing the throttle a bit to hold it in the high alpha attitude.
4. Use the ailerons only to keep the wings level
5. Steer the airplane with the rudder only. No ailerons to steer.

Last thing.
As you turn the airplane be super careful until you get accustomed to how the plane handles, typically the plane is gong to want to drop a wing a little ( You are giving the textbook inputs for a snap roll) Just be thinking ahead and adjust the ailerons ahead of time to keep the wings level as you steer. This will be especially apparent on a downwind turn where you are turning the nose out of the wind and putting your tail to the wind. This is the riskiest time and when the plane is really going to want to lose altitude and tipstall. You have to be " on" and ahead with the ailerons and throttle.

I always had trouble with the plane falling to one side or the other. I always tried to compensate with the rudder. According to that tutorial, i should be using the ailerons unless i am reading it wrong. Going to have to give it a whirl when the weather breaks.

Mr.FlyBye · **#12**

cl the instigator wrote:

One of the best 3d flying I've ever seen. Practice Allen...practice. 9a8ku8

Click

P.S. At the end of the flight, check out the radio he is holding. thud1

Anybody know what it is??

Yep He's a PRo i havent got the time nor the money he has invested to get that good i'll just have to settle for what i can do and polish those manuver's up a little muttleya

cl the instigator · **#13**

I'm waiting on the MoJo to come so i can get it built. Think that will be ideal for me to jump in again.

Mr.FlyBye · **#14**

It looks like a real nice Profile plane that with the right engine will do unlimited 3-D 9a8ku8

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